I know several foster parents and social workers. It probably makes you feel so good. Steven and Diane married on November 13, 1973. I lived through the media coverage. U seem very one sided on every case Ann Rule has ever written just as u claim she did to u. N her parents didnt want custody of the children just like the father. No way. Rule made up stories to sell books and the rights to a movie. I do not post rude comments. We talked about Steve's love of Marvel films and we joked about the staff knowing we were on a blind date because the waitress had . The DA adopting the children is an integral part of this and definitely needs to be included in the blog. Mainly because the courts have to give every chance possible and all the services necessary to the bio family to try to preserve the relationship. Not hard to go there. A. I believe Charlene and I had a big blowout around Thanksgiving and I left, called Diane. As a rule, any child under the age of ten prompts counsel to question the competence of any testimony that child might give. The ballistics, gun, speed at which she drove the car, her demeanor, etc. I am not sure. It was cited that she keeps her emotions close to the vest. Right after the shooting, little Danny would ask the nurses, , Even Ann Rule in her book, keeps mentioning that, Every time, she said she did not know, they told her to think again and made suggestions. (Appendix 3). Thats food for thought. Q. You simply are a rude individual looking for a reaction. There was never a real motive for the crime even if the State insisted that Diane wanted to be free to pursue her love interest; using her journals to support theirclaim. USA population seems to shun complex ethical problems preferring to deal with absolute evil in order to exert absolute power to crush it. But why was the judge in family court hopping over to criminal court? She is still in prison. Everything I outlined should be public knowledge. Now if the shooter was this James Haynes guy, someone who apparently Diane Downs knew from buying drugs, then that would explain why she stopped in the middle of that road. Agreed. This is an extremely tragic case and her children at the very least deserve justice. A trial should be based on facts and solid direct or circumstantial evidence. No other shooter involved in her case. The fact that she was driving five miles per hour to the hospital says it all as a mother myself, I dont care how hurt or mentally damaged I was, I would drive that car 100 MPH to get my children to safety. If personal diaries were to be believed, half of the population would be in great jeopardy. My problem with the circumstances surrounding the crimes against these innocent children is that they were twisted by the media. N u pleaded guilty of murdering ur husband. I guess he did not want too many people to know about the improprieties that happened in his courtroom. The police DID fingerprint the car, from grill to trunk and in between. But in the case of DD, there were a lot of elements missing. I am not her advocate, but I think she did not get due process. I wanted to ask you something on this case. During his travels, he visited prisons and spoke against this type of barbarism because his father was imprisoned for a debt of 40 pounds and 10 shillings when he was twelve years. Completely unethical, and not in the best interest of those children. She had no blood spatter or gun powder residue on her hands,clothing or hair. Would you know at what speed you are going if you were shot and driving with wounded children in the car? Im from Australia and have recollections of this case. If you had commented on one of the elements contained in the blog, it might have been enlightening. She (Diane) managed to jump in the car after getting shot in the arm. Only the people who present ongoing threats to the safety of the public in general are the ones this sentence is reserved for. They now have social media arenas reminiscent of the Romans cheering at the sight of a thumb down meaning there will be a bloodshed. The State had the same gut feeling and made sure she would pay. The courts were divided in the 80s, family court, traffic court, criminal court, juvenile court I dont believe they ran out of judges to preside over them all. After asking her to have an affair, he kept vacillating between his wife and her. Her mom is still alive and would love to have contact but respect that they wont. It is not because a defendant is found guilty or disliked that it is acceptable to bend the rules. No matter how horrible people think she is. Doing it without witnesses when she was so sick is underhanded. If you use this mixed water, you can lift off a gunpowder stain.. I research cases that in my opinion, were poorly tried. I also found it interesting that when he had visited Diane in prison, he had remarked a strange air about her; which did not mean guilt. That doesnt make it true. I try to remain objective in spite of the media storm depicting the case in a certain way, which is not accurate in every aspect. It was all about Charlene wanting KnickKnick ~wanting Dianeand Diane wanting a return to the peace she had before Knick asked his wife for a divorce. It appeared rigged: Rigged? I do not have to state anything at the beginning of the blog. I understand that the authorities were afraid to leave the two remaining children under her care if they thought she was guilty, but they could have been released to the grandparents or other blood relatives with supervised visits from their mom considering that she was not charged with any crime. Just state that at the beginning of the blog. Everything matters in a trial and investigation. I am glad that some articles remain. It appeared rigged and the fact that Ann Rule sat in the courtroom ready to produce a Masterpiece of Guilt could only help the prosecution. A. I dont recall telling her to get an apartment. If the answer is, to keep the public safe, then I call BS. It is documented in the blog where I give the source In the 1996 Federal Petition, you can find the Anatomy of Brainwashing that can answer any question on this subject. I just read your opinion on the Pamela Smart case and the Scott Peterson case. Considering the lack of evidence, it seems that she was condemned mostly because of herinappropriatestatements and behavior. They would have tried to reopen the case. Mission accomplished: Relevance? And the interrogations were not tapedand barelydocumented. But Ann Rules utterly biased account is an insult to investigative journalism and there seems to be very reasonable doubt here. It was a dark and rural road. This is also a faster route to give the children permanency, and is far cheaper for the child welfare system that is always strained by the budget. The fact that the Hugis did so successfully is arguably proof of this. Did CK shoot at car when DD drove away? The bushy haired stranger that police had gotten a lead on worked at the country club he was at work at that time and had a sever speech impediment. I am not sure of the exact timing of Dianes accusations but the Downs family did not only include the grandparents and they were never considered even before this nonsense. That towel should have been soaked in their blood not hers. In fact, watching that was the first time I heard her voice and saw her presence, it was a year or so later that old interviews showed up on YouTube. Ginsburg didn't think women should get to do what men did because she believed they would do the job better; she wanted equality for its own liberating sake. GSR can easily fall off just by brushing your hand against a surface. She claimed she . Most were married because Diane had no desire to remarry. The goal is always to keep family ties intact. And her mental health should definitely have been a factor to release her with follow up care. She was found guilty. I care about the experts reports written about Diane because they know her situation and mental state. It was such a high profile case and she was found guilty by the media and the court so people are afraid to touch this one. She never hurt anyone in the process of escaping. And Hugi seemed pretty sure he would get what he was asking for. Nobody knows but her. The case was so one sided that it is about time some of us bring up the other side. They should have taken the time necessary to find enough evidence. The court can just do an APR, Assignment of Parental Rights. I know several people who know or knew both of the surviving children as well as Diane. I cant believe that it was allowed to happen, actually. It is also very is to clean. So should I put an addendum saying that Diane contradicted herself or was not satisfied with the sketch? This is what I try to do when I research a case that was deemed to be a slam dunk. Yep, Downs who was found guilty in 1984, escaped successfully from the Oregon Womens Correctional Center in 1987 and was transferred to Jersey afterwards. It can safely be presumed, other children told their parents, and that some of those parents reported the disturbing revelation to states Attorney, Prosecutor Fred Hugi. You indicated you were not going to get a divorce? (I know that wasnt brought up this time but it usually is.) I felt there was something that should be done, but I was at a loss in how to cope with the Court that had given the children to the prosecutor and allowed false testimony to seal her fate. I saw footage of Diane herself laughing during the re-enactment of the crime. In this article, we can clearly see that Becky struggled and tried to justify her woes (maybe rightly so) by blaming it on her DNA. But there were discrepancies; the tool marks did not matchand the detective lied on the stand about it. Are we to believe that Proctors second gun was stolen with the bill and ID from the first gun that remained listed at the gun store? This coercion came to Dianes attention in January 1989 (Appendix 39). Page 41 of case history. They should have looked for a possible accomplice and checked all the leads. I think that you are right about certain things not being ignored. Our laws are not written that way. What got her convicted was two things the towel and Christie. Diane was in the hospital for a bone graft from June 2nd until June 6th, 1983. I went on ebay and ordered multiple stuff from the 80s, news footage, just to hear what she sounded like, because of all the talk in the book about her demeanor. Of course, her mental health has deteriorated. According to your own experience Lori, dont they try to give grandparents custody or at least access in cases comparable to this one? She is supposed to be locked up for murder, etc. Considering that the daughter she murdered will never get a second chance, it will never be long enough unless its for her entire life. Our legal system is not perfect. Maybe I should have elaborated more about this comment. I dont disagree, I just think it is another example of flaws in our justice system. If she did have memories of the actual shooting, that would be very rare. Detective Antoine also performed a trace metal test on Diane I S hands to detect the presence of trace metals left after someone has touched or held something metallic like a gun (Appendix 65). In reply to Kit Like in their movies. Basically, I dont believe the site owner has produced enough proof of anything. They were treated very badly in this matter. It is not a plus, but it is not a crime either. This is to avoid the conflict of interest that we read about above. It sounds like this was not the case with Dianes children. Strangely enough, a woman who was seen for 8 months by a psychologist and declared to be in shock and suffering from a mood disorder, would now be assessed by the State hired psychiatrist to confirm the label Hugi conveniently made up during trial. Diane doesnt believe Rebecca is her daughter, rather a media puppet ran by Rule. Same with her brother. May be the guy who says he did it. There was no blood on the front seats so Cheryl was laying down and Christie was asleep laying down and never witnessed anything. Leaving out a lot of info that should be included and presenting a very one sided take on these things. People can have a certain vibe and act out of the norms, but it does not make them necessarily guilty. And how the letters became so bizarre, paranoid and psychotic that she told Diane to stop writing her. she flat out says, they are saying Duran Duran made her shoot her kids!..Im like HUHOkay now this is my favorite groupstill is at 44yrs old.I had to investigate this. This whole case is flawed. A slightly humorous observation is that you said, and others have, that James Haynes physically resembled the sketch.. Simply because I researched them. In her book, Ann Rule made sure to mention that running water was heard by a dispatcher when Diane was at the hospital; insinuating that she was washing her hands and getting rid of evidence. Diane has not been deemed an ongoing public threat that I am aware of. I dont know either if she is guilty or not, but I believe there is a reasonable doubt surrounding the circumstances. Being a patient of the doctor who saved the childrens lives has nothing to do with the facts of a case. But in their defense, they were told at trial what gun was used by Diane to shoot the kids and it must have been very difficult to overcome the emotions brought on by the words of little Christie even if it was pretty obvious during her testimony that she was confused and unreliable. On May 19, 1983, Diane and her kids visited a friend to look at her new horse, and then went for a drive; not at all unusual for this family not living according to middle class rules. Do not forget that she got letters of support from a warden and psychiatrist. Police witness reports of strangers and confessions were suppressed or not pursued. What about the facts of the case? An earlier commenter wrote that it doesnt matter that the trail or the investigation was faultyWHAT !? At the time Diane had told police that a stranger attempted to carjack her and shot the kids, and that's what her ex husband was told, too. Exactly Libby why did they say during the trial that he saw his mom? 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